Friday, December 6, 2013

commute


COMMUTE

As per a minions comments recently, a revisit to the issue of commuting.  The ideal would be a short distance from work where you can bike from.  The ideal would also be no collapse of western industrial economies, but that ain’t going to happen so let’s leave wishful unicorn glitter dreams out of this.  Most of you will be faced with a motor vehicle commute to get from work to a piece of land you can afford to pay off before the bankers swoop down with the deputy sheriff’s and repo the land/house you spent twenty years slaving away for.  And remember, in the Great Depression, the Man showed up, flashed a badge, the hardscrabble farmer cast stink eye on the banks representative, and the family packed up the Model A and drove out to California.  Today, you get LEO’s involved, the cops know the city needs a new bond to keep paying their salaries, they SWAT team your ass, tear gassing the cat, rubber bulleting the kids and sniping the wife while you end up with seventy-three nine mils in your torso.  You do NOT want to get the bankers or their jack-booted thugs coming after you.  Your priority is securing a legal squat.  The car you used to get to work to pay the land is a moot point in the future.

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A car is a tool.  Use it.  Just know there will come a time in the very near future that you will be owing a lot of money on a worthless hunk of plastic and sheet metal.  But you can let the bankers have the car, yes?  You only needed it to get to work, and you paid off your land quickly.  Take out a seven year loan, pay too much in interest and insurance and gasoline-who cares?  As long as the objective is getting your land out of the clutches of the bankers.  If you look at the last hundred years, the bankers have hijacked and taken over and ruined a perfectly good country.  They will think nothing of squashing you like a bug.  Use their system to avoid being destroyed with them.  Get your land far enough away from the city that it is affordable and very quickly paid off, if not “pay-up-front” possible.  The commute is just the cost of business.  When the gas runs out, your job is gone anyway.  Okay, let’s say you find a lot thirty miles from your work.  Sixty miles a day, two gallons of gas, $120 in gas a month.  And the lot is ten grand.  Could you find a lot twice that distance, for only four thousand?  You could commute for over five years at the increased distance without paying more total, and you have a paid for lot of land.  Yes, it is a gamble that you are making.  If all cans keep getting kicked down the road, you end up stuck further out in the boonies.  Plus, gas is now $30 a gallon when available.  Obviously, you must factor in all variables.  My point is merely to worry more about bankers than commute costs.

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21 comments:

  1. Lord Bison I give thee thanks

    Initially I was concerned when my question didn't get a response but now I'm beside myself with glee; you dedicate a whole post to the matter!

    Going to investigate options further from work, when the fuel stops freely flowing work is going to close their doors, at that point having paid off land in the sticks will be more valuable than walking distance to a boarded up factory.

    I remember reading about you're peddling to work, hauling water, and whatnot on your bike to save use of the truck. How far of a distance did you ride daily each way? I'm not certain the range of a single speed cruiser type bike ridden by someone like me, a still sort of healthy middle aged guy who's a little bloated up from eating too many cheap grains.

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    1. At first, I commuted to work on the bike. 12 miles round trip. One day on the weekend we went into town for water/trash/shopping. Around two years ago or so, to save money ( which in the end helped me finance The Pit ) I retired the truck altogether and everything was bike hauled. After a year of that I started renting a car once a month ( about $50 on the cheap days ) for the heavy shopping items ( cat litter, soda ) but mostly to get the wife into town and out of the little home. I haul water in the two attached baskets. It is a PITA and hard work, but I love having freedom from cars.

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  2. Excellent post. This is my first advice to all friends -- cheap and remote LAND. It's the linchpin for everything else -- building a shelter, figuring out heating, learning to garden and raise animals, limiting your bills, etc.

    Try to buy land in a place with few regulations and low property taxes. Store some junk silver for future property taxes. And then stockpile food and supplies.

    Pretty easy but few will ever do it. Everyone has a million excuses. I was a city girl but I now how to think and read. Plus if you realistically look at our future, what choice is there -- it's survive or die.

    Idaho Homesteader

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    1. If you REALLY think about the future, we are still humped even after all that. But you do what you can.

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  3. An old working van does not make the best gas mileage, but can tote a helluva lot of dumpster found stuff inside back home to make your trip worth it. And if you do end up with no land, no house and no employment prospects, living out of it is possible. I've noticed some vans get parked at restaurants bordering Wal-Marts - you cant' tell if the driver is a restaurant worker or shopper. Good possible day time parking option, as are car washes.

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    1. Living in a van is great, I just worry about longer term when no gas is available. At least, not on your budget.

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  4. So, basically you (not entirely) make up for in commute cost for what you would be paying the bankers every month . Assuming you have free time during the collapse (which is now, correct?) This time would be to become less and less dependant on city resources and therefore your job once the collapse happens. Yes?

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    1. Exactly. If you can find local work by cheap junk land, great. Otherwise, you save no money now but are investing in a more secure future. We all know the car is doomed, but few have my option of doing away with it.

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  5. Oh, also, although you and the majority of your readers probably know this, dont make a big stink or it'll also end up like the lovely scenario you pointed out. Correcto?

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    1. People argue with cops as if they still have rights. Eat crow, or the crows will be eating you

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    2. Dang, Jimmy! You getting some pithy sayings. "...I just worry about longer term when no gas is available. At least, not on your budget."
      and "People argue with cops as if they still have rights. Eat crow, or the crows will be eating you..." Is it the cutback on words per or that subfreezing ride?

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    3. I think by cutting back on the words I have less pressure with the time constraints. Let's hope that continues to translate to better bumper sticker slogans.

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  6. This may be more than you wanted to know about
    electric assist bicycles.

    http://www.electricrider.com/crystalyte/index.htm

    http://electricrider.com/docs/Crystalyte_Owner_Manual.pdf

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lV4FxzprGfg&feature=related
    this is 408 Crystalyte motor 72 volt hotrod

    Hill Topper is less powerful, but allegedly adequate
    installation video
    3:24! Fastest electric bike conversion kit in the world.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rC_4Oif-dgI

    http://cleanrepublic.com/lithium_electric_bike_kit.html

    bike with Hill Topper installed
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-470StUEyQ

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    1. Keep e-bikes in mind. Much cheaper than mopeds.

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  7. Great post with a perspective seldom stated but worth repeating... "My point is merely to worry more about bankers than commute costs."

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    1. I try to make them simple enough even I can understand them.

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  8. It is not just the commute. My work involves a lot of driving around. Since my work currently involves basic infrastructure maintenance at the utility level, a partial a fuel sources leads to bad results. Since I am with that large portion of this sector that is private (not with government or government mandated monopoly-utility), and will not likely receive emergency provisions/supports, the erosion will set in very quickly even in something less than a complete cut off.

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    1. Does that make your job insequre? Knowing maintanence is on the chopping block during a downturn.

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  9. Who on the Glenn Beck show urges listeners to store food? The other 99% of talk radio never mentions food or preparedness. They report current sports stastics with such enthusiasm that I wonder if they are wetting their pants.

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    1. Granted. Although, it is the expensive stuff and he urges you to use it during unemployment. That's a page from Ruff and I think it is pretty retarded.

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  10. I'll respond to the last batch of comments at lunch time.

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