Friday, May 3, 2013

it takes a post apoc village


IT TAKES A POST APOC VILLAGE

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It’s not that most people are morons ( as much as it seems so, and even I The Fair Haired One sometimes take the mental shortcut and proclaim with great robust vigor that Every Mother Humping Douchebag Out There Is A Humping Moron ) but that they are just lazy sumbitches and really don’t want to use their brains for much of anything other than a reservoir of cells that alcohol consumption can whittle away.  Which is why culture and religion work so well keeping the cattle in their pen and docile.  Why question anything when you can just accept an upfront explanation ( whether it makes sense or not, it merely has to just sound plausible )?  Anymore, rather than fight the battle to change things ( Women’s Lib, the end of The Draft ), we just go along with what we are told.  We all might act like Political Correctness is asinine but we still go along with most of its twattle.  The reason we fight it at all is that it goes against what we had to accept before, but the message just has to be repeated enough and in a generation or two it is now dogma.  I’m still astounded that bitches buy into the whole convoluted Liberation Hokum, but if I, as smart as I think I am, took decades to figure out WHY it was stupid, I can’t imagine the majority of women give it two seconds thought ( I think men are just as stupid, so don’t play the gender card on me ).

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All of which is way of introduction to my point today.  Come the collapse, you are going to have to fight an ignorant sea of stupidity.  When a family shows up at your compound gate, wailing and caterwauling, three snot nosed little Shittes looking at you pitifully, every Fem in the place, along with equally feminine men who long ago surrendered their testicles in a sexless marriage, is going to start blubbering.  Oh, we must save the children!  Oh, we must help the less fortunate!  Oh, where is your compassion!?  It’s up your ass, you stupid bitch!  Oops, sorry.  I need to keep to my indoor voice.  Look, it really is quite simple.  If you let a child in, who will you pick to starve in their place?  Your elder parents, who have lived long enough?  Or, how about everyone just eats two hundred calories less a day, and you can feed all the kids.  Okay.  And when everyone gets weak and a disease comes along ( hell, even just a nasty flu that escaped from Obammy’s research facility ), and your group starts to die, was taking the children in then worth it?  If a women who desires to save the kids volunteers to eat less, and then SHE dies, what about the husband ( assuming she was childless )?  He is now without a spouse, and too many single men lead to group instability.

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Should you then lead a raiding party to go steal a bride for all the single guys?  Feeding the children now leads to dead males in their prime, your warriors, dead warriors in the tribe they attacked and motherless children from the victims.  This is a very logical train of events ( although greatly condensed in its time frame ).  You might also even have new slaves, from the defeated fighters.  Their life is now in bondage, to save those children.  Now, I’m not heartless.  I think adults should be sacrificed for children, if necessary.  My point is, you can’t save the world.  You can save your tribe, and that is all you can do.  The tribe gets the compassion and the sacrifice, not outsiders.  The tribe gets the applicable laws against murder, rape, bondage, exploitation.  Not outsiders.  This stuff is just common sense.  But most women don’t act of common sense, but their emotions ( I’m not saying this is a bad thing.  It’s what makes them different and in some ways better ).  Perhaps this is why men have predominately ruled through the ages.  Look, you give a guy enough sex to satisfy him, he acts on an even keel.  He doesn’t act too stupid from chemical instability.  He can then think rationally.  He can figure out what is best for the group.  Women are all over the friggin place emotionally, and not just “at that time of the month”.  A woman would proclaim some crap about “retaining our humanity” and take the kids in and everyone then starves.

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Humanity is ONLY for your group, your tribe.  No one is saying you have to live like savages.  But only with the tribe.  Everyone else is, let’s face it, a resource to be exploited.  You know why slavery is a historical norm?  You just saved a minimum of two MILLION calories by enslaving a fifteen year old ( more like ten million if you take into account the parents fuel requirements and food production [ plants to livestock, etc. ] ).  A warrior defeated in battle is an adult in prime fighting shape and he took many millions of calories to get there.  How many bushels of wheat per acre on solar energy, pre-petroleum?  Call it twenty.  A mere 90 thousand calories per acre per year.  Every child slave is, what?  22 acres of free food if my calculations are correct.  This is the cold hard reality, and you ignore it at your peril.  A lot of other brutal calculations are going to be necessary, from much younger years of marriage ( a viable age for breeding is about 14, which might make a lot of folks squeamish at first ), how many years old folks can live ( no one wants to put the bastard out on an ice flow, perhaps they could do everyone a favor and voluntarily do it themselves? ), how dangerous you want work to be for convicts ( such as mercury refining ), whether it is economically viable to trade two slaves for one of your soldiers a POW in the enemies camp, and etcetera.  The good news is, as harsh as all this is, if things are done right the norm is for a small individual sacrifice to translate into a better group benefit and in the end, a net gain for the individual.  See, I can be optimistic.

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14 comments:

  1. How to Create a New Identity & Disappear! The Right Way
    author Sum Wan Nu

    Prepping for the day the SHTF: A complete bug-out and survival plan for life after doomsday
    author Ken Benton

    I think some Apache branches adopted small children and made them members of the Tribe. Granted, followimg any American Indian practices might not be smart (since they lost) but the Apaches were one of the last tribes to go under.
    Something to think about, keeping Tribe numbers up. Might be a problem Jim, unless you had hid some young nubile Elkoettes on the back 9.

    Gil

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    1. I think raiding and kidnapping for assimilation was pretty common to keep numbers up and diversivy DNA.

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  2. http://tinyurl.com/4xox8vs
    Letter Re: A Veteran Policeman's Observations on The Golden Horde
    By James Wesley, Rawles on November 30, 2010 6:41 PM
    excerpt
    I think this is a needed look into what's out there. I've been a cop over 20 years, my last uniform assignment before moving to Investigator being a two year stretch of Anti-Crime patrols in the Section 8 Housing projects of my city. This put me into contact with some of the "Worst of the Worst" that will be fleeing the cities in time of trouble. Gang-bangers, common street thugs, dope dealers and users, all have a place in the hierarchy of the streets. And they will certainly be part of what preppers will be facing in times of troubles. Here's some of what I have learned:

    The bottom rung is occupied by the drug addicts and users. They exist, not live as we understand the word. They have no assets, no goals, no drive. But they do have an almost animal instinct to continue living. They will be armed with anything they can steal or lay hands on. Most will have a knife of razor box cutter, and some sort of cheap pistol, or they will not live to get out of the city. Since they have no resources or assets, they will be on the edge of starvation and desperation almost within a day of an event. With no fixed residence or place to defend, they will be hitting the road and coming towards us. They will become violent without any provocation and there will be no negotiating or bargaining with them. They don't want to hear your story or excuses. All they want is what you have. And have no doubts: They will do anything to get what they want. And this does include catering to their most base instincts of rape, murder and mutilation. Letting someone like this even close to you and what you have is flirting with death.
    etc ............

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  3. One of your best ever first sentences in a post.
    I've written it before but one of your strengths Jim to use whimsy/flippancy/humor in discussing deadly serious things. Good stuff!

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    1. Why thank you. God knows there are enough broomstick up ass types out there trying to teach on the collapse.

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  4. Good post. Folks really should face reality and make decisions now before they're faced with an ethical dilemma.

    I gave a Food Storage talk in church and asked the folks who choose not to prepare which one of my kids was I suppose to let starve in order to feed them?

    This was many moons ago when I cared whether DGI (don't get it) where prepared.

    Now I don't bother trying to wake up the masses. 90% of the population needs to go bye bye and I figure that those who don't prepare have made their own choice.

    Every once in a while someone will wake up and I'll lend a hand and some advice. But it amazes me how few are seeing the light even with everything that is going on.

    Normalcy Bias must be one of the most powerful forces out there.

    Idaho Homesteader

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    1. That's one of the best ways to frame the problem I've heard. If Katrina didn't learm them fools anything I don't know what could. Just remember, wheat for four days ( assuming container cost is added ) is the same cost as one overpriced thirty cal round.

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  5. A pound of wheat is approxiamately 1500 caories if it is HRS or HRW wheat. Durum and white are slightly higher. An average yield before the oil age would be 15 bushels per acre. Higher yields can be achieved with quality soil and some manure. So we are talking 90,000 calories per pound or 1,350,000 calories per acre. Enough to feed 1.5 people for a year if all they ate was wheat.

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    1. I was going with lower calories because it was a child, as far as free acres of food to produce a worker.

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  6. Calm your ass down, Lord Bison. Women can be FAR more practical than men.
    That slavery thing at the end of your post? I would NEVER enslave a captured warrior type male! Bastard would cut your throat the first chance he got. And the calories that would be required to keep him in working shape!? Talk about a drain on resources!
    Keep it family, keep it tribal.
    The starving family with two kids at my door? Are either of the kids female? I have 5 sons and 2 daughters. Gonna need wives for those sons!
    Say one of the kids is a 3 year old girl....I'd inquire as to the families genetic/ancestry heritage. Then I'd make my decision...healthy female child, take that child and that child ONLY in. If the parents protest...fertilizer. Take that as you will. If they agree, give them enough food for 3 days and tell them if they return, they will be fertilizer. Or just talk gently to the child while someone else takes the rest of the family to the back of the barn. Whatever.
    Each case is individual to the tribe you are in and your needs at the time.

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    1. The only problem with individual cases being, no one can make up their mind then argue endlessly. You will need broad guidelines up front, then case by case according to current resources/needs.

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  7. The second hardest part about building our new home is the transportation issue- just a couple of miles off pavement and it is almost unreachable several months of the year and totally unreachable by motor vehicle the rest of the months.
    This is a bad thing for building, but a great thing for when the grid goes down, the neighbors (2 miles one way 3 miles the other) look like the end of the road for anything except sagebrush and grass.
    The locals will know where we are, but refugees passing through would have no reason to even think of looking farther than the neighbors houses.
    The locals all fit into a couple of distinct groups with the farmers/ranchers being the biggest by far - why would they want to bug us on our land that is useless to them? Sure they could (try) but why? and the community will close up tighter as the collapse gets harder for them (though it will likely hit here nearer the end of USA totality).
    Resources, though not plentiful here, do exist if you are willing to adapt and take into account the vast distances between these resources. Ammo will be a big limiter to combat after a while, but bow hunting is almost as common as regular firearm hunting so that will be displaced quick enough- and most of the firearms are bolt or pump/lever action anyways. The wide open terrain will invite horse transport for raiders, but will also allow simple messages (even if only smoke signals) to be sent in advance of the raider. hidden washes, traps, and ambushes from spider holes will be allong all the major routes and rivers to further slow raiders. Food will be poor quality and quantity, wheat beans and beef for the most part- but all but the largest towns in a 500 mile radius have enough farms ranches and truck gardens to keep people fed IF the season is right when the SHTF.
    From this town to the next largest takes bike riding military types (cops, border patrol, etc, doing a charity event race) about 4-6 hours following the pavement, it would take lots longer if they didnt keep to pavement.
    SO post SHTF the hinterlands (great plains, desert, etc) will not suffer as pronounced a die off, nor banditry as sudden and severe as the higher pop. areas- BUT they will suffer lack of growth due to lack of more modern resources and will likely generate the very raiders that the city folks will suffer from after the collapse of contitnent wide law and the rise of city states (my guess is MS-13 and the like will run the cities south of you Jim, I dont know about elko but N.Vegas for certain will be gang run quickly) And cities in most places were intitially settled because they had Water, Food, Transport, and other resources available that may be insufficent for their current populations but after a break down in law and order (see Katrina / NewOrleans) the lower populations WILL have enough to scrape by.
    Maybe instead of the Cowboys and Terrorists as the joke talks about, it will be Cowboys and Gangbangers during the second phase of the new order?

    -Grey

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    1. Have you figured the transportation issue, or is that what is holding you back from moving there? ( sorry if I forgot details along the way )Are you just going to hunker down on supplies over some seasons? Work from home?

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