Friday, April 19, 2013

timing is everything


TIMING IS EVERYTHING

Let’s talk about timing after the collapse.  If you’re worried about timing prior to the collapse, don’t.  If you screw that up there will be no worries about that afterwards.  I’m referring to the prior discussion with the book “Traveler” and the quest for food and ammunition.  By all means fair and foul ( obviously since the book involved a band of thieving n’er-do-wells the means were all foul ).  As I was smirking at the thought that after four years of warfare the characters would still have oodles and gobs of magazine loads of ammunition to hose down the enemy with, it was commented that perhaps the theft of ammunition kept everyone readily supplied.  I don’t blame the minion for this comment.  Almost nobody thinks about this, which is pretty humping obvious because if they did nobody would own semi-automatic weapons ( hell, you can’t even use rimfire anymore for semi-automatic.  Not at ten to fifteen cents a round, if you can even find the stuff ).  And here is the timing part.  If you don’t steal your food and ammunition the very first thing, you can pretty much give it up because it will all be gone lickity split.  Just like with Wal-Mart shopping at the first hint of trouble, if you time it right you are golden and if you don’t you are suddenly engaged in a firefight in the parking lot over a can of pork and beans, never even making it to the Apocalypse ( in case there is any confusion on your part, I advocate panicking early and never ever never shopping anywhere after everyone else has already started to go batcrap crazy since their preps consist of a half case of Top ramen left over from the Boy Scout Jamboree and a half box of 12 gauge birdshot left over from gopher control ).

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Storage food and foraging is pretty obvious.  There is X amount of food on hand and people will start eating it immediately.  Everyday you wait before trying to steal it, there is less and less of it.  Obviously this doesn’t apply to fresh food and after apocalypse canning/butchering.  I’m talking about metal cans from the factory, a classic post-apocalypse staple in almost every movie you watch or book you read.  Any book that uses this device, such as “Earth Abides” or “The Stand”, which is everyone else’s favorites, is automatically rejected by myself as a classic or an approved item.  The movies I can give some leeway in my judgment since they are rarely as good as books ( the exception being The Postman which was way better than the book which had high tech robots in the end- civilization crashes but intricate machinery survives and is serviced.  Sure ).  But books have no damn excuse since editors generally don’t want the thing dumbed down to protect a $200 million investment.  Food is consumed every day, yet no one gives it serious consideration.  Yes, at one time America was the bread basket to the world ( well, cornbread basket ).  But anymore there are serious issues there, from depleting aquifers to GMO’s to artificial fertilizer and Peak Oil to depleted soil and snow pack levels- to name a few.  You think we still live in a democracy or even a government shackled by the Constitution, and you still think the oil wells are going full blast and our fields are a cornucopia.  You are at least a hundred years off.

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Now, to ammunition.  As the majority of you sweetly massage your bulging manhood with your Mattel plastic poodle shooters ( there is nothing wrong with an AR, as long as you use it ONLY as a mid range sniper rifle and not as a carbine for short range combat.  The thing WILL jam ), dreaming of a day when you shall stride cockily into the town square and gun down any and all who dare oppose your brand of religion, somehow you maintain the assumption that even as Washington DC is a glowing radioactive slag heap and the middle eastern oil fields have been seized by the Chinese, somehow your stash of ammunition will keep magically replenishing itself.  Either by your never ending reloading stash or by being able to sally forth and smite the unbelievers and appropriate ( when you kill a Christian and take his supplies, you are an agent of Satan and a scumbag.  If you are a Christian soldier and smite the wicked [ anyone who believes different gods exist ], then you don’t steal, you appropriate his supplies in the pursuit of The One True God’s Work ) their ammunition.

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Well, simple math kind of ruins that.  “A” will be the defender.  “B” will be the attacker ( without moral judgments differentiating the two ).  One fine day, A repels an attack.  And again a week later.  Then, a larger attack.  When a smarter brand of B triumphs, A only has a few rounds left.  B gets a few boxes of ammo to try to attack C next week.  And every time B attacks, he uses more ammunition.  You can’t trick every A into exposing himself and then snipe him and get his gazillion round ammo stash at the cost of one round of ammunition.  And that assumes A never had to use up any of that ammunition to defend against other B’s.  At the very onset of the collapse, indeed all the above is moot, assuming everyone starts out with a lot of ammunition ( until six months ago, a valid assumption.  In the next six months, we might all be sitting atop a never to be expanded through dollar purchases stash ).  Ammo is like food, it gets consumed near every day.  Too long into the collapse, there is no more to steal, both because of offense and defensive operations.  You can only emerge years later well armed by disappearing and waiting out the die-off ( and then, husbanding your ammo very carefully ).
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14 comments:

  1. Indeed, sniping only for defense. Preserve all that is possible.
    I can snipe at a hundred yards with my compound...accurately, then later after the dust settles go retrieve the ammo for another go.

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    1. The M4 crowd might think they are cool spraying and praying, but the snipers will be the last to have to go black powder.

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  2. I claim first dibs on the minions' recent idea of looting enemy bodies for ammo!!!

    Oh, it seems that most the survivers travel towards Oregon in the SHTF books I've read. Elko is safe!!!

    "appropriate his supplies in the pursuit of The One True God’s Work" Dat's poetry, Jim!

    Gil, a loyal BM, 2nd class, who adds nothing of value to this discussion...

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    1. Gil, let's not set a precident. BM, or Bison Minion, is also Bowel Movement ( although most folks say "drop a duece" ). Please keep it at LM, Loyal Minion. And, hell, I'm surprised I add any value to a discussion.

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  3. I think you are giving people too much credit by assuming they will defend their ammunition stashes via a firefight. As I type this 1 million citizens in Boston are cowering in their homes, afraid of just 1 man. And probably pissing their pants if anyone knocks on their door.

    Our men have become a nation of mostly emasculated pussies. After the collapse you may be able to just shout: "We're from the governmental authority, come out so we can help and protect you." And the stupid f#*kers would do it. Then you take their food, ammo, and their best looking women.

    And I'm almost not kidding. The women of Boston should be disgusted with their beta-male husbands and boyfriends.

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    1. Why would they be disgusted? Big-City dwellers are a breed apart and see no problem living the way they do. I think a women would leave a husband that showed some balls ( she'd hump a guy that did, but she'd stay married to the one that didn't ). No, I'm assuming the survivors, collapse already happened, will be fighting.

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  4. re saving ammo ........

    www.youtube.com/watch?v=LsqrlaIef2o

    arrows with flint bird points shot from
    40 lb bow penetrate deer.

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  5. Havahart animal traps use no ammo.

    www.amazon.com/s?ie=UTF8&keywords=animal%20traps&page=1&..

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    1. And don't forget a paper version book on making your own, folks.

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    2. 50 Pound Takedown Recurve Bow for Less than $10 Part One (Uses PVC pipe)

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1sA7R_k4PE

      Lots of how to videos of this nature on youtube.

      Download Mozilla Firefox, then download the "Download helper" plugin so that you can save these videos.

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    3. 50 Pound Takedown Recurve Bow for Less than $10 Part One (Uses PVC pipe)

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1sA7R_k4PE

      One of these would take much....much practice to become proficient.

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    4. The only thing I'm proficient in is eating wheat.

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  6. A smart girl could distract and maneuver
    the guy with ammo within range. You could
    whack him in the head with something and
    take everything,
    Feed his carcass to the hogs.

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    1. She doesn't have to be smart, just well stacked. Tyrone, who sent her out, can be the smart one. Hopefully I'm now proven to be racsist and sexist.

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