Friday, June 15, 2012

my three cents worth

MY THREE CENTS WORTH
I’m sure we’ve covered this before, but like fine wine I taste better with age ( that’s not what she said! ) so any time I bring up an old topic beat to death like a nag on the way to the glue factory, it naturally is improved.  There seems to be a decline in quality to American workmanship across the board.  No one wants to try very hard anymore.  If you are going to prepare for the end of the world, don’t half ass the son of a bitch.  Go all out.  Stop storing six months of freeze dried.  Three to five years of food should be your minimum starting point ( I noticed Wally World has stopped trying to be The Low Price Leader in yet ANOTHER item and pinto beans zoomed up in price to near ninety cents a pound.  So, while it is no longer as cheap to stock beans for protein, if you go one fifth beans and the rest wheat, a bare bones diet for three years is still only about $500 before container costs ).  Don’t include carbon fuels into the equation.  The collapse will last far too long for any stockpile to last ( think solar and rocket stove, and either underground or dugout ). 
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As far as ammunition, think LONG term ammunition needs.  Ten thousand rounds of rimfire should be your minimum.  Assume that China and Russia will no longer flood the world with 7.62 steel rounds, assume that semi-autos will quickly shoot their wad and then become worthless flimsy plastic sticks.  Which is why I’m always harping on bolt actions.  Semi-auto suppressive fire is a tactic devised during a cheap and abundant oil industrial age.  You know, the one that is over.  I understand that you want to have that warm and fuzzy feeling of being able to mow down biker gangs ( the gottdamn Biker Jamboree is in town this weekend and every half crippled Yuppie Scum moron with more dollars than sense is riding around on their twenty grand machine loudly announcing how wonderfully important they are.  Naturally, the town is no where near embarrassed enough at pimping themselves out for this spectacle.  My point, I’d like to mow down some of these clowns now ), but I don’t think most of us can invest in that insurance.  Learn to shoot and scoot, not spray and pray.  If you use industrial supply tactics, you will run out of ammunition very quickly.  The future belongs to those that survive the de-industrialization, not those that embrace its outdated concepts. 
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But not everyone is comfortable with rimfire.  They want a bit more bite to combat large hungry wildlife and charging marauders.  My suggestion is to go with the shotgun.  Not because it is all that great in all environments.  Some, such as urban and dense growth, it is great.  Others, plains and desert, it leaves a bit to desire.  The advantage of the shotgun is that it is really the only caliber that you can improvise reload with.  You might be able to substitute a paper cartridge and black powder for your rifle, but odds are it won’t have much more range than the shotgun, given its imprecise engineering.  The shotgun is designed around broad tolerances.  All you need for a shotgun to reload is the primer.  You don’t need the plastic shell.  Unlike rifle brass, a paper shotgun shell works just as well ( we are of course assuming a break open shotgun here, not a pump or semi ).  You don’t even need lead for the shot.  You can pour in rocks or steel bits or what not.  Black powder is going to play havoc with a rifle round ( a rainbow trajectory rather than a flatter one ), but will have minimal impact with the shotgun.  When you are preparing for a very long time experiencing a collapse ( you are all popping wood over the prospect of a recovery after the collapse, but be assured this will last as long as the last five hundred year Dark Ages, and that we can never use our technology again, as it is 100% petroleum infrastructure dependent ) you are going to spend a lot of money if you follow conventional advice.
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With a semi-auto, you had better assume a minimum of ten thousand rounds.  Call it two grand new ammo and reloads for the other eight.  I’d call that about two thousand bucks minimum and you will NOT have enough.  Bolts will not be much cheaper, especially if you have an older design that no longer has surplus ammo available.  So, an inadequate amount of ammo for two grand.  But with a rimfire and/or a shotgun, your cost is three cents a round give or take.  $300.  $300 verses $2,000.  Granted, this is apples to oranges.  You are comparing a five hundred yard gun to a fifty yard ( 100 max ).  But since you can’t afford perfection, you must compromise.  It becomes a question of Do I Have Enough Ammo, period.  I’d rather have three years of wheat than three months of MRE’s.  I’ll live longer, even with worse nutrition.  In theory, if you supplement your poodle shooter with an inferior firearm that has dirt cheap ammo, after the main die off you will then be able to revert to a near forever firearm.  Inferior in performance but at least it has ammunition for it.  I’m not saying this should be your only firearm, just that if you can’t adequately stockpile a real guns ammunition, go with the $400 option ( $300 for the rimfire/primers, $100 for the gun ).  If you plan of a forever collapse and it doesn’t happen, you rejoice and are only out the price of one years auto insurance.  If you are right, you are armed with something other than a sharpened stick.
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8 comments:

  1. wonderful advise jim:

    I'm going to start saving for all that. so, the first thing i"m going to do is delay sending you the $ 20.00 dollars you been asking. to pay for that camera. now you have to wait a bit longer.

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  2. On the subject of firearms Jim, I also feel that it's in the survivalists best interest to aquire at least one flintlock musket . These versatile guns can fire a patched round ball with relative accuracy at ranges under a 100 yards, but also double as a decent shotgun, considering that they are generally in the .75 cal bore range (Around a 20Ga). A flintlock pistol would be handy, and compact to have as well.

    These guns will have an extended life, long after the last of the modern ammunition, along with the manufacturing to keep it going has since stopped.

    Ignition; flint can be found and knapped. Black powder; Potassium nitrate can be made at home; look it up on youtube. The rest, sulfur and charcoal are fairly easy to come by. Purchase a mold for the round balls; lead will be easy to find for a good long time and can be recycled by melting down and remolding.

    As far as shotguns and .22 rimfire, there have been some nice combination guns (Over and under) available over the years. Savage had a pretty nice model that was .22 lr, and 20ga shotgun. One gun can take small game to large game, and everything in between; something to consider?

    Bows, or crossbows can be pretty effective weapons and game getters, and have the added bonus of being silent and not drawing unwanted attention.

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  3. Jim the other day i was watching TV and man was selling a liborator pistol.the gun was a crap stamped steel job.What was neat was we made them and droped them to french resistance fighters in ww2 note included was kill german gaurds take his gun.Now im not saying be rambo to arm yourself but if he was going to rob you and fails his gun and ammo are mine .A ballbearing makes a nice pellet for a shotgun and candle wax to seal them in.Nice to see you back in good form.May the wife hit a jackpot and treat you to a buffet dinner

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  4. I think this is the first time that you have acknowledged the positive attributes of the shotgun.

    The shotgun is awesome indeed! Use a slug to drop a deer at 100+ yards, or pump some 00buck lead (roughly aimed!) into an immediate vicinity intruder. No rifle can match both of those virtues.

    A big rifle cannot be replaced in power or range, but a shotgun would still be my first choice in a 'survival gun'. A .22 would be second. Then the Bison Survival Rifle (Lee-Enfield, etc). Good post today, Mr. James M Dakin!

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  5. I just thought I would share the joke.
    First of all the 'stair steppers' are right- the oil decline will have multiple peaks and valleys but since demand continues to grow over the water fall we will continue to go... (Sure, there will be brief periods of pseudo stability and even economic growth but they will never last more than a decade or so at best, and be followed by another harder fall.)
    So here is the proof that hope springs eternal, and wants your retirement fund....
    http://agorafinancial.com/reports/OST/Rebirth/green_041112_ESI89AR.php?code=6OSTN601

    snicker.

    -Grey

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  6. Dude ! What happened with the only once weekly blog ? Shoot, damn near overlooked ya...

    I have long advocated the 22 as the best round for survival. Folks just don't understand that almost any bullet hole in your body is going to kill you after the collapse. You pop someone in the guts with a 22 and they are done for the day, period ! Gonna hurt like a sumbitch ! Not to mention you gonna 100% sure assed be dead.

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    1. True, thanks to infection, gut shot will be a near death sentence -eventually- but in the mean time if the attacker is very determined they WILL be able to continue to attack, of course at that point their attack will be weaker but by no means stopped.
      A .22 MUST be backed up by something more in order to be a sure stop. Even shoot and scoot a .22 is liable to just make the attacker(s) more determined to find you and get vengance for their impending doom/loss.

      -Grey

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  7. You are making one assumption - that someone with a semi-auto will not aim....and squeeze of rounds as needed.

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