RUST, STARVATION, WEST
I was reading Rawles this fine morning ( Monday ) and I guess I had drank enough coffee because I actually paid attention and got an article idea. I’ll be responding to his comments on Western retreats, the duration of starvation and for good measure I’ll throw in some observations of rusting cans. First, the cans. Last week I had read someone recommending empty paint cans for food storage. This morning I read on further steps to take to protect your #10 cans against rust. Nearly six years ago I wrote an article on the paint can storage. I bought a cardboard flat worth, which I believe was four cans, and filled them with wheat berries in a shopping bag. Recently I pulled them out of storage to discover they were wicked rusted. Nothing else metal in the storage van had rusted, but those paint cans sure did. And remember, this was quite a while before the can manufactures started cutting back on quality to boost profits ( canned food is no where near as sturdy as it used to be ). Hell, I have thirty year old metal cans stored outside under a tarp that have less rust on them ( a particularly awesome trash picking score, those containers of wheat ). Do NOT, repeat NOT, follow my original advice on paint cans as food storage. Too easily rusted.
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Rawles says, move out west to retreat. The east is way too crowded and you will die a horrid lingering death. Well, words to that effect. He just thinks it’s a bad idea all around. Creekmore and STHF dude both live in the east, Tennessee and Maine respectively, and think they have found the exception to the rule. They are all correct, because there is NO totally safe retreat location. Yes, some are far better than others. But all have serious issues. Sure, the east is seriously overcrowded. As I’ve said before, one or two boroughs in NYC have more people than all of the original thirteen colonies. But here is what I’d like you to take away as the point today. The West is vastly overcrowded for its resource base, and given the limited sources of water, come the collapse you will face just as ugly a refugee problem as if you were back east. Once the grid is down, every swinging dingus not living near a natural body of water will lose his well water and will gravitate towards the only water available. The reason
is not the cat’s meow as advertised for survivalists ( most every area sucks in one way or another, I’m just focusing on the legendary area. Today it is Idaho Idaho, thirty years ago it was coastal ) is the funneling of arid region populations up that way. LA, Oregon and SF will bypass the Mohave and move up into the Sierras. Once those are too full, about ten minutes after the general panic should do it, the extra refugees move into San Diego . The few farming valleys and coastal regions will also quickly fill up with warring factions from the urban areas, so the flow continues up into Oregon . The eastern portion of both states is too arid. The flow tries to make it up into Washington British Columbia or turns into . And even with a good thinning out, plenty of folks make it. Even if none did, the city right across the border ( is it Idaho ? Sorry, no recall and no handy atlas ) has plenty of surplus population to send that way. Obviously, this is worse case, and perhaps too paranoid. Most refugees shouldn’t be able to make it several states over. But the general flow of refugees is towards resources ( else, why would they be on the move? ) and Spokane has resources. The Idaho basin has none. As far as the water issue, it will be more like a localized reaction. For instance, the surrounding twenty miles from a river are drawn down to the water. What makes L.A. so dangerous is so many people so far away from limited water. 90% of the population, or close enough, needs pumped water. California
Rawles estimates that if you are going to hunker down, within 18 to 24 months all food is gone and you can emerge from your hide. I don’t know where he gets his figures, but I can’t imagine things taking that long. Yes, there are warehoused foods, foods on railcars, etc. But a year and a half’s worth? The entire globes food system is intertwined. If a wheat silo in
Nebraska doesn’t get filled up, the wheat comes from when needed. But does it sit very long in the silo? Inventory is evil, and no business wants it. No bank likes to see a potential interest payment not made. Obviously there has to be some inventory, but I’d wager the stuff is usually moving to other needed areas, earning money, rather than sitting around. I question if in our entire country there is more than a few months worth of food. Certainly it isn’t in peoples homes. I think the whole cycle of hoarding, fighting over the hoards, fighting over existing inventory, stealing from the original thieves and eating each other will be all completed in a very short period of time. I could be wrong, but following the lead from every other business where oil is burned for profit, I can’t see stationary inventory. I’d best guess a month or two, and that includes the fat most folks cart around on their ass being burned up. I’d say six months is a safe enough hideaway period. Argentina
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